Concluding Thoughts on The Strange Fire Conference

I don’t really want to say much more on the Strange Fire Conference. I have already said my piece. But I’m compelled to just add a bit more to my original post.

1) The Strange Fire Conference did include some nuance.

I’m happy to concede that there was some nuance and admission that not all charismatics are of the devil. This insider’s summary of the conference puts the best spin possible on it, and I am happy that there is some nuance evident.

2) But Strange Fire also overstated the problem.

The build up to the conference bills it as dealing with the charismatic movement as a whole, and numerous quotes from the conference itself seem to make that same case. It was claimed that 90% of the charismatic movement held to a health/wealth prosperity gospel. And in MacArthur’s last session he said the charismatic movement is made up mostly of unbelievers. Earlier he claimed the movement had contributed nothing good in terms of worship or theology – nothing that came from the movement itself.

This can be nothing but broad brushing. And while many have decried cessationists in similarly broad strokes on the rebound, it is clear that a mischaracterization of the movement was perpetuated through the conference. Proof enough of that is the fact that I have yet to see a charismatic who did not perceive the conference as a slap in the face and who did not see this conference as attacking the movement as a whole.

3) Generalizations are tricky things.

I understand how difficult it is to criticize a movement, as I often have had to backtrack and clarify my own critiques of fundamentalism. The shoe doesn’t fit everybody, and the movement is bigger than you think – once you learn more of it. The same goes for critiquing charismaticism. The charismatic movement is bigger than Benny Hinn. There are rank and file charismatic believers who eschew the prosperity gospel, who avoid the anti-trinitarianism of some sectors of the movement, and who are faithful to the gospel. I contend that this group of churches and believers are largely not Reformed – so they are not just a small wing represented by the C.J. Mahaneys, Wayne Grudems, and Sam Storms of the world. They are a big group who make up the majority of charismaticism, at least in America. Now it can sure seem that most charismatics are heretical. Equally so, it can seem that most cessationists are jerks. But neither of these perceptions are the truth.

4) Controversy is not necessarily bad.

It is right to stand up for truth. Controversy cannot be entirely wrong. But a consistent controversialist should be ignored, and rightly so. Can it be that MacArthur has more fundamentalist in him than we thought? Is controversy being peddled for its own sake? I don’t really think so. I give him the benefit of the doubt. The problems the conference addressed are real and clear. And he has consistently spoken out against them over the years. Just because he is bringing the ugly wing of charismaticism to light, shouldn’t make him the enemy.

5) Are “Bashing” conferences helpful?

Do we need more “bashing” conferences? Baptist blogger Dave Miller explores that question in a helpful post. (As an aside, his reaction to the conference was perhaps the most helpful I’ve read.) How helpful is a conference really going to be when it claims most of what it addresses are the antics of unbelievers? Would it have been better to include Reformed Charismatics, who could add weight to the critique of pentecostalism run wild? Would John Piper or Sam Storms add more to the expose of the Word of Faith problem? Solidarity across party lines for the sake of truth would sure seem more convincing and may lead to less wagon-circling and more soul-searching.

6) What’s a charismatic to do?

With this conference, was there any pathway given for the one who has seen miraculous gifts manifest in their church experience? Are they supposed to assume such an experience was necessarily strange fire and doubt their salvation? Should they have a crisis of faith? God can be God — that seems to have been stressed in the conference: but what do we call it when God acts in such a bold way? It seems an emphasis on discernment and a more measured approach could prove more helpful than a wholesale dismissal of anything remotely charismatic in flavor.

7) I long for unity and dream for a convergence.

This whole debacle leads me longing for more tangible unity in the body of Christ. Yes I realize it is lofty to type such words. I don’t want to claim too much for me and my position. I just think there are many who would agree with me, that unity is something we can desire. Even admitting one side is right and one is wrong, still I wish for more unity – isn’t that biblical?

I will go beyond just wishing for this, and recommend a book – it’s what I do best around here. I would recommend that my cessationist friends (and most of my friends are cessationist) pick up a copy of Sam Storms’ Convergence: Spiritual Journeys of a Charismatic Calvinist. In that book he tries to show how both sides are right and both sides are wrong. The church needs the doctrinal clarity and Scriptural knowledge of the cessationist and the emotional realism and simple love of the charismatic. Each side can learn from the other and a biblical convergence is possible.

May God bring about such a day and encourage each party to appreciate the other in a sincere attempt to understand and appreciate what they bring to the body of Christ as a whole!

5 thoughts on “Concluding Thoughts on The Strange Fire Conference

  1. If the sign gifts of the Apostolic days are still valid today, then why aren’t the charismatic preachers praying at funerals for the resurrection of the deceased? They don’t even try to raise the dead back to life. They know, deep in their hearts, that those sign gifts are no longer available. Charismaticism is akin to the sensational extra-biblical reveries and revelations of Ellen White, the profitness of Seventh-day Adventism.

  2. I read Sam Storms book “Convergence” several years ago as it was recommended to me by a leader from Bethlehem Baptist (John Piper’s) church. This guy recommended it to me because I was taking his “arching” class at the church and I was almost in shock when he told me he speaks in a private prayer tongue. I could not believe that such a mature highly studied man could participate in such a practice. I read Sam Storms book over that very weekend slowly and deliberately I did not find him convincing at all. I do not remember much if any of the book now but as I recall most of it had his personal stories which are all subjective of how so and so was a at home bible study and mentioned a disease and then low and behold somebody at the house had that disease. What I did not find in that book as I recall was a thorough Biblical case for prophesy, tongues, or divine healers. On the contrary listen to R.C. Sprouls sermon from the conference.

    1. Jeff,

      I loved that book. It was testimonial/autobiographical for much of it. But it also discussed several biblical arguments for continuationism, prophecy, tongues and the like.

      This book, and John Piper’s sermons on the topic have made me aware of biblical arguments for continuationism such that I cannot disparage that position and easily write it off as once I did.

  3. Nice coverage, Bob.

    I also worry about the sensational and controversial-loving aspect of conferences like this. I think a certain wing in the MacArthur movement relishes the controversial: see some of the hot topics in recent Shephard’s Conferences, for example. More heat than light in a few of those!

    I think the folks at the Confessing Baptist podcast did the much more edifying thing by setting up a debate between two believers: a cessationist and a non-cessationist. That was the far better approach, IMHO.

    Andrew

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