A New and Improved "About This Blog"

I am finished editing the “About” page for this blog, so feel free to check it out. That basically finishes my editing work for now. The move to WordPress is now complete!

I have decided to post the “About this blog” section as a separate post below. I think it is my clearest attempt yet, at being specific in my critique of fundamentalism. It also discusses IFBx*—the label I give to the branch of fundamentalism I came out of.

About This Blog

This blog, being about me, is the place where my thoughts and views are expressed. But you already knew that.

Okay, so let’s begin with my blog’s name. Maybe that will clue you in as to what my blog is about.

Fundamentally Reformed. It means I am a reformed fundamentalist, as in no longer in the fundamentalist movement. It also means that I am one who now embraces reformed theology. In fact, my blog’s subtitle is “reforming fundamentalism (IFB) through reformed theology”, and so yes, I believe that reformed theology could reform many in fundamentalism.

Right about now it is important to define some terms. First, when I speak of fundamentalism I speak of independent Baptist fundamentalism (IFB). Some equate the term with Muslim extremism, while others with evangelical theology or Christianity in general. Neither of those definitions work.

Secondly, I need to give some of my background so you know from what “branch” of fundamentalism I came from. The fundamentalism I came from is often termed IFBx (extreme fundamentalism). I think the definition fits, although I tend to think an asterisk is called for. My alma mater, for instance, is not into the blatant man worship and ultra traditionalism which permeates those who rightfully own the IFBx label. They find Scriptural reasons (using sound hermeneutical methods, for the most part) for the standards and positions they adhere to. In fact, I am thankful for the emphasis on Scripture and a serious devotion to Christ that I inherited from this branch of fundamentalism.

It is the positions they hold and how tenaciously they hold them, which makes that branch of fundamentalism extreme. Some of the positions they hold, such as KJV onlyism and the teaching that women should not wear pants are extreme in the sense that there is so little clear teaching in Scripture which demands these positions. The few verses claimed to support them have other obvious interpretations available. Yet only one interpretation is allowed. Other positions which may have a larger Scriptural support, are held in such a way as to say that only their own interpretation is correct. If one is not pre-trib rapture, or if they hold to less than conservative music style, or if they hold to any form of Calvinism, they are not only wrong, but worthy of censure and separation. The broader movement of fundamentalism might limit fellowship to some degree over these issues, but they do not “write off” those who hold differing views to the extreme degree that IFBx fundamentalists do.

A further consideration here comes with regard to the extreme emphasis on loyalty and allegiance to personalities. IFBx fundamentalists view any departure from their list of required positions as compromise and disloyalty. This sector of fundamentalism also places an undue emphasis on authority. Any questioning of a position, however sincere and non threatening, is viewed as an attack and a threat to the leader’s ministry. Such a situation begs a complicit adherence to the authority’s list of do’s and don’ts and facilitates an unhealthy separation of external conformity and internal heart worship. With such a stress on outward conformity, it is easy to seek to gain acceptance by men while neglecting the matters of the heart. While the particular circles of fundamentalism I came from were not as extreme in this regard as other IFBx groups, they still hold an undue emphasis on loyalty and conformity, which again puts them as IFBx* in my book.

Within this branch of fundamentalism, there is no liberty to contemplate changing one’s positon on a point or two. Any capitulation from any small point is seen as a departure from fundamentalism en toto, and in reality a departure from the faith! Thus, any break from this branch of fundamentalism (at least a break made by someone who was whole-heartedly embracing all of the points to begin with) is necessarily very dramatic and often final. It also results in much pain in the one leaving. When one emerges from extreme fundamentalism, they do so with a lot of disorientation and a feeling that they will never fit in anywhere ever again! More than doctrinal positions and standards are left behind, one’s very identity is left behind. In a lot of ways, it is very similar to leaving a cult.

So having experienced all the difficulty and agony involved in contemplating leaving and actually leaving, including problems with family and friends, I wanted to hear of other’s experiences on the web, or to connect with some people to help me through this situation. I did not find much out there that dealt with this at all! So I started this blog to provide a place to deal with such issues, personally (by chronicling my journey and putting my rambling thoughts on all these issues down on paper), and to hopefully help others. I wanted to facilitate those who suspect that there are problems with fundamentalism but do not know where to look in Scripture for answers with a forum discussing the shortfalls of fundamentalism.

This blog, then, aims to help others who are in their own journey within fundamentalism. The blog may help some leave fundamentalism totally. And it may give some needed help and support to those who already have left (or who choose to). It might also give others some perspective and help in leaving the more extreme corners of fundamentalism and settling into a more balanced wing of the movement. Let me be clear, I do not necessarily want to get everyone out of fundamentalism. I think the movement still has some value and there are many who are doing a great job in calling for reform. Sharper Iron, for instance, represents many different strands of reasonable fundamentalists who share a balanced perspective, a wariness of traditionalism, and a desire to save the movement.

So with all the above having been said, let me briefly mention some of the topics this blog discusses. I don’t harp on fundamentalism with each post. I discuss reformed theology, Calvinism, and covenantal theology often, and I include some devotional and general interest posts. I do discuss fundamentalism, separation/unity, standards, as well as specific issues like KJV Onlyism, and Music. And I like to highlight some of the newer music written today which has great and Christ-glorifying lyrics. While I like to practice armchair theology and talk about books and recommended articles and such, many times I merely reminisce about my own past or peculiar eccentricities of fundamentalism. I also share family and church news. In short, my blog contains a wide array of interesting topics. (Hey, I think what I write about is interesting, doesn’t everybody?)

Finally, let me link to a few posts from the past which can help you get a sense of the mission and direction of this blog, and of my particular take on fundamentalism. But before I do, let me state one more obvious thing. The best way to learn about this blog, is to read it!

  • This post gives an introduction to blogging for the uninitiated
  • This post lays out my commenting policy
  • This post highlights my ultimate aim in all of my blogging
  • This post and this post clarify my critique of fundamentalism
  • This post explains my motto (“Striving for the Unity of the Faith for the Glory of God”)
  • And finally, this post is my original “about this blog”, kept for posterity’s sake.

∼striving for the unity of the faith for the glory of God∼ Eph. 4:3,13 “¢ Rom. 15:5-7

Theological Triage

Albert Mohler recently wrote a brief article on the topic of theological triaging [old link, new link is here] (HT: Sharper Iron Filings). The points he makes about prioritizing doctrines are very important and worthy of considering. He contends, and I agree, that fundamentalists err in not being willing to prioritize doctrine. This leads, as he points out, to unnecessary and harmful divisions in the church in general. I have stressed the importance of prioritizing doctrines elsewhere. For this post, I want to just reproduce most of Mohler’s article, with highlights and etc. added. I encourage you to consider what Mohler has to say.

In every generation, the church is commanded to “contend for the faith once for all delivered to the saints.” That is no easy task, and it is complicated by the multiple attacks upon Christian truth that mark our contemporary age. Assaults upon the Christian faith are no longer directed only at isolated doctrines. The entire structure of Christian truth is now under attack by those who would subvert Christianity’s theological integrity.

Today’s Christian faces the daunting task of strategizing which Christian doctrines and theological issues are to be given highest priority in terms of our contemporary context. This applies both to the public defense of Christianity in face of the secular challenge and the internal responsibility of dealing with doctrinal disagreements. Neither is an easy task, but theological seriousness and maturity demand that we consider doctrinal issues in terms of their relative importance. God’s truth is to be defended at every point and in every detail, but responsible Christians must determine which issues deserve first-rank attention in a time of theological crisis.

The word “triage” comes from the French word “trier,” which means “to sort.” Thus, the triage officer in the medical context is the front-line agent for deciding which patients need the most urgent treatment. Without such a process, the scraped knee would receive the same urgency of consideration as a gunshot wound to the chest. The same discipline that brings order to the hectic arena of the emergency room can also offer great assistance to Christians defending truth in the present age.

A discipline of theological triage would require Christians to determine a scale of theological urgency that would correspond to the medical world’s framework for medical priority. With this in mind, I would suggest three different levels of theological urgency, each corresponding to a set of issues and theological priorities found in current doctrinal debates.

First-level theological issues would include those doctrines most central and essential to the Christian faith. Included among these most crucial doctrines would be doctrines such as the Trinity, the full deity and humanity of Jesus Christ, justification by faith, and the authority of Scripture.

These first-order doctrines represent the most fundamental truths of the Christian faith, and a denial of these doctrines represents nothing less than an eventual denial of Christianity itself.

The set of second-order doctrines is distinguished from the first-order set by the fact that believing Christians may disagree on the second-order issues, though this disagreement will create significant boundaries between believers. When Christians organize themselves into congregations and denominational forms, these boundaries become evident.

Second-order issues would include the meaning and mode of baptism….disagreement on issues of this importance will prevent fellowship within the same congregation or denomination.

Christians across a vast denominational range can stand together on the first-order doctrines and recognize each other as authentic Christians, while understanding that the existence of second-order disagreements prevents the closeness of fellowship we would otherwise enjoy.

In recent years, the issue of women serving as pastors has emerged as another second-order issue. Again, a church or denomination either will ordain women to the pastorate, or it will not. Second-order issues resist easy settlement by those who would prefer an either/or approach. Many of the most heated disagreements among serious believers take place at the second-order level, for these issues frame our understanding of the church and its ordering by the Word of God.

Third-order issues are doctrines over which Christians may disagree and remain in close fellowship, even within local congregations. I would put most of the debates over eschatology, for example, in this category…. Christians may find themselves in disagreement over any number of issues related to the interpretation of difficult texts or the understanding of matters of common disagreement. Nevertheless, standing together on issues of more urgent importance, believers are able to accept one another without compromise when third-order issues are in question.

A structure of theological triage does not imply that Christians may take any biblical truth with less than full seriousness. We are charged to embrace and to teach the comprehensive truthfulness of the Christian faith as revealed in the Holy Scriptures. There are no insignificant doctrines revealed in the Bible, but there is an essential foundation of truth that undergirds the entire system of biblical truth.

This structure of theological triage may also help to explain how confusion can often occur in the midst of doctrinal debate. If the relative urgency of these truths is not taken into account, the debate can quickly become unhelpful. The error of theological liberalism is evident in a basic disrespect for biblical authority and the church’s treasury of truth. The mark of true liberalism is the refusal to admit that first-order theological issues even exist. Liberals treat first-order doctrines as if they were merely third-order in importance, and doctrinal ambiguity is the inevitable result.

Fundamentalism, on the other hand, tends toward the opposite error. The misjudgment of true fundamentalism is the belief that all disagreements concern first-order doctrines. Thus, third-order issues are raised to a first-order importance, and Christians are wrongly and harmfully divided.

Living in an age of widespread doctrinal denial and intense theological confusion, thinking Christians must rise to the challenge of Christian maturity, even in the midst of a theological emergency. We must sort the issues with a trained mind and a humble heart, in order to protect what the Apostle Paul called the “treasure” that has been entrusted to us. Given the urgency of this challenge, a lesson from the emergency room just might help.

Fundamental Reformers: A New Aggregate Feed

Update: Due to problems with Blogdigger not being able to read some of the feeds properly, I have switched to using just the Xfruits.com aggregator/aggregate feed. I like the look of this aggregator the best, anyway. The only drawback is that sometimes when you click on a link from the RSS listing on my sidebar (under the section “Fundamental Reformers”), you do not get to the post listed. Other than that the aggregator works great and updates very quickly (faster than Blogdigger did).

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RSS & WordPress

RSS = Really Simple Syndication, click to learn more from WikipediaOne of the great features that WordPress.com offers is the ability to have RSS feeds listed on your sidebar. You can display up to 10 entries at a time for up to 9 different RSS feeds. This makes it possible for you to design your blog as a great one-stop place for information: the blog functioning as both a blog and a mini RSS reader.

I have incorporated this feature into my blog by providing the latest posts from Sharper Iron’s filings (General Christian web news), Between 2 Worlds (Reformed web news), and Reformation Theology(great Reformed articles). But I have been looking for some way to also include an RSS feed which draws from the posts of several blogs which would be more directly related to the overall theme of my blog. After much searching, I have finally found a way to do this–and it’s free!

I have actually found two solutions. Xfruits.com was my first discovery, and then this made me think of Blogdigger Groups. Xfruits.com allows you to consolidate multiple RSS feeds into one single RSS feed, and Blogdigger allows you to create a group of blogs and provides you with a RSS feed from that group. Xfruits.com presents all the posts in their entirety (the last 100 of them), while Blogdigger gives the posts in an excerpt format. Of the two, Blogdigger seems the most usable for the reader, although the other is more pleasing to the eye. Either service now allows me to create my own aggregate feeds.

My New Aggregator (& Aggregate Feed)

So without further ado, let me announce my new aggregate feed: Fundamental Reformers. This feed incorporates my own posts along with those of 10 other blogs which are reforming fundamentalism (see list below). Obviously the views of each blog and author are not identical, and I am sure each of the 10 blogs disagrees with some of my views as I do theirs. But each of these blogs has contributed toward reforming fundamentalism in my opinion. And each of them produce worthwhile posts. My point in providing this aggregator is to bring attention to the good posts that are often written on these blogs which would be of interest to me and my readers. For anyone who is struggling with certain aspects of fundamentalism, or for those looking for some kind of direction or help, and for others who want to continue to interact with what others are writing, this aggregator will prove a great source of information with everything all in one place.

How it works

Before I list the blogs included, let me point out how you can use this aggregator. To do that I must first explain how it works. The aggregator takes all of the feeds from the blogs and lists them in chronological order just as a RSS Reader (like Bloglines or Google Reader) would. It gives an excerpt of the entire post, points out who the author is and links to the actual post and its blog. The aggregator lists the last 200 or so posts from all these blogs.

Using the aggregator is as simple as going to it and reading it. You can also link to it from your blog. You can even use this button for it: Fundamental Reformers--the blogs reforming fundamentalism (just right click it and save it, then use it!) You can also subscribe to the aggregator feed from a RSS reader (again, like Bloglines, Google Reader, Feedburner, etc.). Now I must note that since I am using primarily Blogdigger’s service, there is one link for the aggregator and a separate link which is the actual RSS feed for the aggregator. If you prefer to try Xfruits.com‘s feed which shows the last 100 posts in their entirety (and acts more like a good RSS reader than an aggregator) you can use this link. The Xfruit.com feed is more pleasing to the eye while the Blogdigger feed is more user friendly for navigating through the feed. Each has its benefits, but at the end of the day I’ll go with Blogdigger and let you all pick which you want to use. They are both free for me, so I’ll keep them both updated as the list of blogs grows (if it does).

As for my blog, I am using the button to link to the Blogdigger page from the “About Me” and “Buttons & Etc.” sections of the sidebar. I am also linking to it from the “Bobspotted Blogs” section. And you can find the last 10 entries from the blogs in the list (minus my own blog, of course) in the “Fundamental Reformers” section. Just below that in the “Subscriptions & Feeds” section you find links to the RSS feed from Blogdigger for the group as well s the Xfruit.com version of the feed.

The List

Now finally, let me list the blogs. I may add more blogs in the future, so if you have any suggestions, feel free to pass them on.


∼striving for the unity of the faith for the glory of God∼ Eph. 4:3,13 “¢ Rom. 15:5-7

Fundamentalist Joke

While I was preparing for my recent post on secondary separation, I stumbled across this joke.    I thought it would lighten the discussion and add humor to my latest discussion of secondary separation. However, it also illustrates the extremes to which secondary separation can digress.

There was a man who was about to jump from a bridge to end his own life. A passerby stopped to try to prevent it. The passerby tried to start a conversation and told the jumper, “I am a Baptist”. The jumper said, “me too”. “Oh really, that’s great”, said the passerby, “are you a pre-millenialist Baptist?” The jumper replied, “yes I am”. The passerby said, “great, me too”. The passerby asked, “are you a King James version only Baptist or will you use other versions?” “King James only” said the jumper. “Me too” said the passerby. “Are you a 5-point Calvinist?”, asked the passerby. “No” replied the jumper. “Me either” said the passerby. “Would you recognize baptism from a Baptist Church where the pastor did not attend a Baptist seminary?” The jumper replied “Yes”. The passerby then shouts, “Die! Heretic! And pushes the jumper off the bridge.

[The above joke was given in a comment by Ron Bean (who states it is not original to him) in the discussion of an article entitled “Unity is Fundamental”  on Sharper Iron.]


∼striving for the unity of the faith for the glory of God∼ Eph. 4:3,13 “¢ Rom. 15:5-7

Secondary Separation–A Wisdom Issue

Secondary separation, the belief that the Bible requires separation from those who do not separate from apostates (primary separation), is at the heart of what it means to be a fundamentalist today. It is not enough to believe in the fundamentals of the faith, or even to “do battle royal” for them (through separating from apostates). No, one must separate from those who, although they believe in the fundamentals themselves, do not separate (at least to the degree we think they should)  from apostates. One must furhter separate from those who associate with those who do not separate from apostates.     Only then is one truly a fundamentalist.  

This position inevitably (and actually) results in the wholesale rejection of all of orthodox evangelicalism (besides fundamentalists, of course). In short, if you are not one of us, then we must separate from you. Why? Because you are not one of us, of course!

Nathan Busenitz  recently addressed this very issue in a series of blogposts on his group blog  Faith and Practice  (HT: Ben Wright). Nathan is a personal assistant to John MacArthur, and like Phil Johnson (of Pyromaniacs fame)  he has interacted  with fundamentalists on the issue of separation. Since many fundamentalists respect MacArthur’s ministry, Phil and Nathan legitimately wonder why fundamentalists cannot/do not  associate with them.

I found Nathan’s assessment of secondary separation  to be immensely helpful. What follows is a brief summary of  his three posts, with excerpts. I encourage you, however, to read them in full on your own.

Nathan begins with a post entitled “History’s Blurred Line of Separation”  where he traces early fundamentalism’s inconsistent positions on ecclesiastical separation (separation at the church or public/institutional level). He points out that W. B. Riley, “Fighting Bob” Schuler, and Bob Jones, Sr. all remained in denominations tainted with liberalism for many years. He also demonstrates that John R. Rice preached against secondary separation. Concerning fundamentalist history Nathan writes:

…we see various approaches, applications, and controversies regarding the issue of ecclesiastical separation. There was clearly no unified, one-size-fits-all model of separation, especially with regard to separating from conservative brothers who remained within the mainline denominations (second-degree separation). Some didn’t even believe such separation was right. And yet these men were all equally committed to the fundamentals of the faith and the absolute authority, inspiration, and inerrancy of the Bible.

After presenting the confusing history of early fundamentalism he offers the following suggestion:

Could it be that, for many of the first-generation fundamentalists, second-degree separation was not viewed as an explicit biblical doctrine, but rather as a wisdom issue in which biblical principles were to be applied on a case-by-case basis?

Next, Nathan focuses on 2 Thess. 3 in response to some comments positing that this passage is a Scriptural justification of secondary separation at the ecclesiastical level. His brief post on 2 Thess. 3  does a good job at critiquing the fundamentalist understanding of this passage. It furthers his case that secondary separation is not explicitly prescribed in Scripture and thus should be treated as a wisdom issue.

His final post We Do Believe in Separation emphasizes that MacArthur and his  church  clearly believe in separating from apostates and even those associated with apostates. But he wraps up the whole discussion as follows:

Where we differ with typical fundamentalism, I believe, is at the third- and fourth-degree separation levels (if I can even speak of such levels of biblical separation). We find primary separation explicitly taught in the New Testament. It is, therefore, a non-negotiable for us. But we do not find secondary (or tertiary) separation explicitly taught in the New Testament. Thus it is treated as a wisdom issue in which biblical principles must be brought to bear on a case-by-case basis.

To conclude my discussion of Nathan’s posts, let me highlight that secondary separation at an ecclesiastical level  is not explicitly taught in the New Testament. This is what makes it a wisdom issue. All of us are required to apply the principles of Scripture to our associations, and often some form of secondary separation is found to be wise (as in the case of Billy Graham, for instance). But since it is not explicitly commanded, it is wrong for me to demand the same level of secondary separation from others before I fellowship with them. It is wrong to elevate  my wisdom positions to the level of a fundamental doctrine. This is an area where I must part ways with fundamentalists. This does not mean they lose my respect–I respect many of them. It means I differ with them on this point.

Any of you fundamentalist readers want to comment on this? I would be glad to discuss this issue further. But for now, Nathan’s posts seem to clearly express my own disagreement with fundamentalism on this issue.


∼striving for the unity of the faith for the glory of God∼ Eph. 4:3,13 “¢ Rom. 15:5-7