Bobspotted Blogroll: July 18, 2007

Many of you might not remember the last time you saw a Bobspotted Blogroll post. The last time I did one was in March!

Technological advancements have made me lazy in this regard. If you look left, you will notice “Bob’s Blog Finds” towards the top on the sidebar. If you haven’t paid attention to that before, you really should. Many times you may come to this blog and see no updates. If you check out Bob’s Blog Finds, however, you may see that I’ve been busy enjoying other people’s excellent blogs. And if you are interested, you can read what I’ve been reading. Better yet, you can subscribe to a feed of all the blogposts I enjoy on a regular basis. You could even do what I do, and add that feed to the side of your blog (kind of like I do with Thirsty Theologian‘s blog finds, see my left sidebar, further down). For instructions on how to make your own “blog finds”, you can start with this post.

So with such wonderful technological aids, why bother with a blogroll post? To tell you the truth, I’ve missed doing them because they’re fun. They let me highlight some great posts in a more notable way, and I can give props to some of my blogging friends. So without further ado, let me list some bobspotted blogposts.

On Fundamentalism

On Music & Worship

Interesting

  • Fred Butler often posts some interesting or hilarious content. Recently he highlighted a video of some amazing crashes in a slippery tunnel. It’s hard to explain the appeal of the video, so just check out the brief clip for yourself.
  • Jeff Voegtlin posted the list (complete with pictures) of the 2006 Women Driver of the Year awards. The awards are completely sarcastic, of course, and the pictures are quite fantastic and almost unbelievable. But then again, who hasn’t encountered the quintessential woman driver?

Huckabee

  • If you can’t tell from looking at all the Huckabee banners around here, I’m a Huckabee supporter. If you haven’t checked out the campaign blog, they have updated it. This post links to some interesting radio interviews about his campaign. He seems to be picking up steam, and there is word of he’d make a good VP. I’d prefer him as P though, and I truly feel he is one of the best chances the Republican party has of winning the general election.
  • For more info on Huckabee, this blog (check out this article by the way) and this blog are your best bets.

Theological Issues

Missions

Preaching and Preachers

Abortion and Babies

Images of the Savior

Miscellaneous

Morality, Music and the Bible

Imagine if you will an Indonesian bushman we will call Fred. Fred has heard a strange message about Jesus and forgiveness of sin. An islander from a different tribe testified of the power of God being greater than that of the spirits, and he gave Fred a copy of the Bible that he had received from some foreign missionaries. Fred takes the Scripture portion home with him, as he journeys back to his home tribe. There isolated from almost any foreign influences, he comes to believe in the Jesus of the Bible, and a small band of believers emerges.

Now Fred has a New Testament with the Psalms. And in the Psalms, he finds numerous exhortations to sing to the Lord, and to sing a new song. So he and his fellow believing tribesman pick up their native instruments and start composing songs for their newfound Savior.

There is one problem with this story, though. Fred and his friends are singing songs with the same instrumentation and the same cultural sound as those they used to sing before they were converted. Indeed many tribes use that kind of music in their pagan rituals and songs to spirits. Isn’t the music then that Fred is using inherently evil? Doesn’t it have a morality of its own, independent of the wonderfully Christian words that Fred is using in his new songs?

Such is the question of morality and music. And here is my latest attempt at discussing this thorny topic. What follows is taken from a comment I recently made on my blog here, in response to yet another discussion about these very issues. At the end of this discussion, I’m going to return to the example mentioned above.

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Music is amoral, because music is a creation, an entity — merely noise. But music is never used or created or employed by amoral people. People employ music for many different purposes, and as in everything people do, morality becomes a part of it.

How music becomes moral or immoral depends on the meaning of music. Just like there is nothing morally wrong with a rainbow colored bumper sticker, there is nothing morally wrong with any different style of music. Now a bumper sticker of the colors described above has taken on a meaning, and the meaning is quite specific. And for that reason I can judge the meaning as unquestionably immoral, and I would not put one on my car. Now with music, then, morality becomes a question of meaning.

So how much meaning is in music? I don’t argue that music has no meaning, it does. Apart from any lyrical context, without any words, and without any context, simple sounds or a simple music style does not have a specific enough meaning to become inherently moral or immoral, in my opinion. Add some words, add a context, the music increases in specificity and can clearly be inherently moral or immoral.

Yet even then, music is by nature subjective. Music inherently is more than just communication. It is more than just content or meaning. It is not mere prose, it is poetry given life. It is a spirit thing. Music is emotional, it is art yes, but more than mere art. It is something to be enjoyed. At the root, music is used because it is pleasing to listen to. We could all just recite the words to “How Great Thou Art” in unison. But that would not move us to the depths of our being as much as if we included a rich melody and harmony, and a supporting rhythm.

Now come questions of association, culture, and quality. Musicologists and philosophers wax eloquent, and traditionally charged presumptions and prejudices pull many into the fray. But it is precisely here that we must be most especially careful to look to Scripture. We find essential silence. Scripture never discusses the lasting qualities which make certain kinds of music inherently superior to others. Scripture doesn’t teach that certain associations make certain music styles inherently evil or unredeemable. Scripture never points out a specific cultural variety of music for our emulation. It merely encourages believers, gifted with the creativity God gave them, to employ all kinds of music in a way which captures the totality of our spirit and soul and mind in honest praise to God.

So to be frank, I don’t buy the arguments of musicologists on the superiority of classical music. There are plenty of other cultural varieties of music, and in other cultures believers looking to Scripture would not be pointed to an 18th century European musical theory book. I also don’t buy the argument that anything contemporary has been polluted by the beat which inspired rock “˜n roll. Sure there is much contemporary music crafted to encourage illicit sensual pleasures. But sensual pleasures are only wrong when enjoyed outside of the bounds God lays.

We are sensual, fleshly people. As such, we like to eat, and we need to sleep. We enjoy a pat on the back, and we like to kiss our wives/husbands. We laugh and cry. For many, any kind of music which appeals to their body is denounced as fleshly. If it makes my foot want to tap, it must be evil. Why is that? Because I like vanilla ice cream, should I be worried about catering to my flesh?

Now I grant that association can render some kinds of music style inappropriate for certain contexts, like worship services. But God wants us to redeem all of culture, and I believe that almost any musical style can be redeemed given a proper context.

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Now then, let’s come back to the example of Fred, our converted bushman from Indonesia. Did you notice how it is the testimony of Scripture which compelled Fred to start writing songs and singing to God? If we stop for a moment and get honest with ourselves, we must agree that Scripture does not directly address the question of what kind of musical instrumentation or style believers such as Fred are to employ. What Scripture teaches by precept and example, is that all kinds of musical instruments and all kinds of emotions (often at the highest intensity) are to be used and felt during acceptable, God-honoring music. All of this is gleamed from the Psalms alone. And the Psalms also teach us to be physically expressive, we are to shout, clap our hands, raise our hands, even dance as we sing.

So I conclude by affirming that it would be wrong for a Westerner to enter Fred’s sphere and condemn Fred’s musical style. Fred’s music doesn’t need to be westernized to be spiritual. The music Fred is employing has taken on a new context, that of praise to God. Fred has the freedom and responsibility to redeem his musical culture and to offer sincere heartfelt praise to God.
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Responding to Error: A Comparison Study between Fundamentalism and Hyperfundamentalism

Recently, I was startled by a sharp contrast over how 2 different men responded to error. These two responses provide a comparison study which illustrates just why fundamentalism (IFB) and hyperfundamentalism (IFBx) should be distinguished.

Definitions

Before we move to the study, we should pause and provide some definitions for those who may be unfamiliar with the independent Baptist fundamentalist movement. Fundamentalism describes the position of adhering to the fundamentals of the faith and also being willing to separate over these fundamentals. For independent Baptists, such separation usually extends to believers who cooperate with those who deny one or more of the fundamentals. And the movement dictates how such separation looks and around which personalities it centers.

Hyperfundamentalists, also known as IFBx, elevate cultural standards to the level of doctrine, and separate accordingly. Many leaders in this group exert an inordinate control over the lives of their followers, and demand an almost cultish loyalty. This group also maintains extreme positions, often holding to an almost-heretical KJV-only position.

Admittedly, the division between these two groups can be somewhat arbitrary. And we are obviously speaking in generalities. There are similarities between both groups, and that is part of the reason why I have left independent Baptist fundamentalism altogether. But the differences remain. And these differences can be very large and defining, as this comparison study will demonstrate.

The Comparison: Case #1

I have not followed the Joe Zichterman case fully, but his departure from fundamentalism provides the background for our first example. He had been a professor at Northland Baptist Bible College, a solidly IFB institution. Now he has left the movement altogether and has joined Willow Creek Community Church (pastored by Bill Hybels). Evidently, he has great respect for Bill Hybels and Rick Warren, and recommends Joel Osteen. I don’t know all the details, but apparently he is encouraging others to leave fundamentalism, and has emailed hundreds of people on fundamentalist email lists in defense of his departure. I may disagree with some of Joe’s theological leanings, but I do empathize with how big a deal it was for him to leave the fundamentalist movement. I also read his fictional work “A Tale of Two Amishmen: Inside the mind of a Spiritual Defector”, and I agree with many (not all) of the concerns with fundamentalism in general as highlighted there.

Now in response to Joe’s defection, I’m sure there has been much said in the fundamentalist blogosphere. To be honest, I haven’t read all that much of it. I did, however, read Brian McCrorie’s recent post “Is Joe Zichterman a False Teacher?” That post applied the results of his recent study on false teachers to Joe’s specific case. He concluded overwhelmingly that Joe Zichterman does not fit the bill of a false teacher, according to the following Biblically-derived definition.

False teachers are unregenerate people who have rejected the Gospel and are now intent on corrupting it for the sake of monetary gain. They use deception and lust to entice spiritually immature believers to their heresy. These teachers have no spiritual discernment, are addicted to sin, and are arrogant, especially toward authority. They deny Christ and the words of Christ.

While some in fundamentalism might be prone to apply that particular label to Joe, most of them do not doubt his salvation, nor his sincerity. They would agree he is in error, and many bloggers have taken the time to show why. Some fundamentalist leaders, however, even call for his message to be appropriately considered and pondered. So this is a fundamentalist response to theological error: a reasoned rejection coupled with warnings, and a sincere prayer that God would bless and help Joe Zichterman see the error of his ways.

Case #2

I was recently made aware of a new controversy within hyperfundamentalism. It surrounds Jack Schaap, the son-in-law of Jack Hyles, and current pastor of First Baptist of Hammond, IN. I knew that mainstream fundamentalists had been pointing out the wild and unbelievable stories, and strange doctrine of Schaap, but I was not aware that other hyperfundamentalists and Hyles devotees were also pointing out Schaap’s errors. For all I know, this controversy could have been brewing for some time, but many of the official letters that I found were written in the past month or so.

The ringleader (from what I can tell) of the opposition to Schaap from the conservative fundamentalist ranks is Tom Neal of The Baptist Contender. His website highlights a sermon preached by his son, Greg Neal entitled “Schaap’s Fables”. The website also boasts a collection of audio clips of Schaap espousing various heresies.

Now I am glad that Tom Neal and the other men behind that paper are holding Schaap accountable for his wacky and errant theology (more on that later). I find it odd, though, that this same paper endorses Jack Hyles 100%. David Cloud’s article “I Am of Jack” singles out The Baptist Contender and Tom Neal for an almost cultish devotion to all things Hyles. And if you want to speak of wacky theology, Jack Hyles was king in that category. This site lists just some of the many crazy and absurd things Hyles taught. (And this is beyond the questions about Hyles’ personal integrity.)

As for Schaap, the charges against him center primarily on his overemphasis (possibly a mis-emphasis) on a comparison between marital relations and the intimacy which should characterize a believer’s relationship to Christ. Christ is the husband and the church is the bride, remember. Schaap gets very pointed in his application of this “principle” and goes so far as to claim that the Lord’s Supper (in which we partake of or receive Christ’s body) is all about this “spiritual intimacy”. Details of this shocking teaching can be seen here.

That was the primary charge brought forth in that sermon, I mentioned above. The second primary point had to do with Scaap’s humanizing of God. Various quotes were given which did seem to bring God down somewhat to our level. Schaap’s motivation seemed to be to help us understand God more and get us to see things differently.

Now that is pretty much the sum total of the accusations Neal and company throw at Schaap. Other things are mentioned, but it seems to me that they are mostly stretches. For instance the list of sermon excerpts which supposedly confirm that Schaap teaches heresy fails miserably. I honestly don’t have a clue on some of the excerpts as to why they were included; perhaps the page is still being created and they are “on the hunt” for evidence, I’m not sure. Most of the clips have Schaap decrying racism. Is that heretical? On this page, they provide a 14 minute clip which shows Schaap belittling pedophiles and making a mockery of sin. If you listen to it, Schaap is not doing any such thing. He is calling for people to have an understanding of others and to try to reach them rather than just condemn certain people and write them off. Another point of evidence the site appeals to is Schaap’s calling a non-fundamentalist black megachurch pastor James Meeks his friend.

I emphasize the scant evidence of other charges to make this point. These men take what is certainly questionable and errant doctrine, and conclude that Schaap is denying the deity of Christ and preaching another gospel. Greg Neal said he did not believe Schaap was saved. The site links to some very mean-spirited letters written to Schaap and Ray Young by Tom Neal that were copied to a veritable “Who’s Who” list in hyperfundamentalism. There is also a letter to a pastor John Shook, where Tom Neal doubts his salvation and refuses to call him “brother” because he defends Jack Schaap.

Is such a fierce response warranted? Certainly Jack Schaap has some doctrinal problems, and he could benefit from more Bible study time, it seems. He should be more careful with his teaching, and ensure that his teachings on marital intimacy don’t become license for sin or occasion for a blasphemous view of the believer’s relationship to God. But is he consciously denying the deity of Christ? Is he really preaching another gospel? Is he a “false prophet” to use Greg Neal’s words?

Conclusion

I can’t believe I just defended Jack Schaap! But the sad truth is hyperfundamentalists are so extreme, that they often think the worst they can of everybody who doesn’t agree with them completely. To them, there is only so much error one can have before we start doubting their salvation.

It should be painfully obvious by now just how wide the gap is between hyperfundamentalists and their fundamentalist cousins. That is what struck me so much in thinking through both of these cases. Now I know that Tom Neal and company may perhaps represent the radical right extreme of hyperfundamentalism, and Brian McCrorie could be close to the left extreme of fundamentalism, but I think this comparison does illustrate an important point. Fundamentalists are prone to think through things more slowly and carefully and Biblically, whereas hyperfundamentalists quickly default to an extreme separation from anyone they deem to be in error.

One more thing, this again highlights the important question I raised a long time ago “Is It a Sin to Be Wrong?” And again I point you to Tim Challies’ answer (which was recently highlighted in the comments of one of my recent posts).AddThis Social Bookmark Button

The Surge Is On

It’s official! Today marks the launch of Kingdom Surge, a new team blog devoted to missions.

This project will aim to harness some of the excitement and energy spent in the Christian blogosphere and direct it into thinking about and aiding the cause of missions, particularly to the unreached people groups. The team (with the exception of myself) are all involved with missions. I consider some of them to be experts in missiology, and I know they all have much to say which can help motivate and equip others for missions to the unreached.

So, head on over and check out our first post. Consider linking to this blogging enterprise, and then continue to stop by as the missions discussion unfolds. See you there!

NOTE: Now is your chance to leave the first comment on Kingdom Surge. Years from now, you will look back and count that an honor! 😛

Bible, the Sole Authority?

“The Bible is our sole authority for faith and practice.” I bet you have never heard that line before. Oh wait, if you are Baptist, you probably have.

Sadly, while many affirm this in principle, in practice they deny it. Tradition or culture often dictate a particular application of Bible principle. In the end, this application becomes Bible teaching and dogma. Alcohol, movies, pants on women, specific styles of music, specific translations of the Bible — the list of topics on which Scripture is “steered by tradition” could go on and on.

To compound this, doctrinal positions, where the Bible seems to allow for competing yet Biblically faithful interpretations, again morph into “its just plain Bible”. So if one doesn’t agree with a pre-trib rapture position, for example, he is rejecting the Bible; yet the facts of the matter stand differently. The one who denies a pre-trib rapture, only denies it on the basis of another Biblical position with various strong proof texts of its own. Of course only one end-times doctrine can be absolutely correct, but is it a sin to be wrong? And are we to be as dogmatic of our correctness on lesser points such as eschatology, as with major points like the Trinity and the Gospel?

All this comes from thinking about a fascinating look at church creeds by the always thought-provoking Carl Trueman. In an article called “A Good Creed Seldom Goes Unpunished” from the March 2007 issue of Reformation 21, Carl has the following insights into the “Bible only, we don’t need creeds” view.

On the issue of creeds, the evangelical world often seems absolutely divided into two broad camps: There are those who are so passionately committed to a particularly narrow view of scripture’s sufficiency that they not only deny the need for creeds and confessions but regard them as actually wrong, an illegitimate attempt to supplement scripture or to narrow the Christian faith in doctrinal or cultural ways beyond the limits set by scripture itself. Then there are those whose view of creeds and confessions is so high that any other theological statement, and sometimes even the Bible itself, seems to be of secondary importance. Neither group, I believe, really does the creeds justice.

I am very suspicious of both approaches. While I share the concern of the first group to safeguard the uniqueness of scripture and to avoid imposing my own cultural preferences and tastes on someone else under the guise of gospel truth, I have a sneaking suspicion that the cry of `No creed but the Bible!’ has often meant rather `I have my creed, but I’m not going to tell you what it is so that you can’t know what it is and thus cannot criticize it or me for holding it.’ Such is often the case with those evangelicals who reject creeds but have very definite views on the legitimacy of the consumption of alcohol and the nature of the end-times, for example. In practice, they effectively allow for no hypothetical distinction between what the Bible says and their own, or their church’s, interpretation of the same. Thus, they render themselves immune to any criticism. Further, as soon as they use words such as `Trinity’ or even consult a commentary, they reveal that what they say about their relationship to tradition and what they actually do in practice with tradition are in conflict. (HT: The Journeymen)

As I have stated above, I think Trueman hits the nail on the head with this issue. (Be sure to read the entire article.) We need to be careful to recognize our tendency to bring culture, and preconceptions to the Biblical text. Let us be silent where Scripture is silent, and cautious when the issues are truly complex. Let’s respect God’s Word and not presume to speak for It.