Man-Centered Christianity (part 4)

previously in this series–part 1, part 2, “The Sinner’s Prayer Problem” (part 3)

In the posts above, I have introduced the problem of Man- centered Christianity, and begun exploring how the problem became so widespread in the American evangelical Church today. Part 3 was an aside, focusing on the problem of the “sinner’s prayer”–a method which has contributed in part to the problem of man-centeredness in Christianity. Before I continue, it might be good to review what it is I’m addressing in these posts.

Much like the problem of going to church for ourselves, man-centeredness results in a blurring of the distinction between the church and the world. God is important, church is my thing, but my life is, well my life.

I read the following quote in John Piper’s book The Legacy of Sovereign Joy (pg. 118):

“I suddenly saw that someone could use all the language of evangelical Christianity, and yet the center was fundamentally the self, my need of salvation. And God is auxiliary to that….I also saw that quite a lot of evangelical Christianity can easily slip, can become centered in me and my need of salvation, and not in the glory of God.” “” quoted in Tim Stafford, “God’s Missionary to Us” , Christianity Today, Dec. 9, 1996.

When church is all about us, that’s a problem. And today, the Bible has become a guidebook on how we can have a great life. Church is important, but not particularly vital. It’s sort of an optional extra which adds benefit to your life, but sometimes the cost can be a pain.

Theologically, God loves us, because we are so important and special to Him. That’s why Jesus died for all, He had to do what he could for us, you know.

How did we get here?

In part, the sinner’s prayer and other techniques for getting people to receive Christ are to blame. Of course many have legitimately been saved using these methods, but the methods subtly shift the focus from God to man. Whereas in the past evangelists majored on declaring the gospel faithfully, and letting the Holy Spirit work, today we encourage people to do something: pray a prayer, walk an aisle, etc. Then we pronounce them saved.

This leads me to today’s post: the common understanding of eternal security has contributed to this problem. Once saved, always saved–this idea has helped further the inordinate focus on man in today’s Church.

Here’s how it goes. A preacher attracts someone into the church by highlighting how Jesus can add purpose to their life. He gets the convert to settle his guilt problem and his anxiety over a possible eternity in Hell by promising the convert full salvation if he only prays the sinner’s prayer. After jumping through that hoop, the convert is then told he can never lose salvation. It’s free, and God’s not a liar.

The convert then is exhorted as to his obligations to love and follow God, because of all God did for him. So a dutiful following of Jesus often happens. And since worship is fun [or maybe the people are], the convert may stay around a while. Of course since, the convert’s personal value was what made the gospel important, so its natural for him to expect the other messages of the church to practically benefit his life and help him. However, the convert may eventually lose interest in church, or fall out of sorts with this or that friend. Since God wasn’t central, its easy to not look back–especially since the convert, if he knows anything, knows he has “fire insurance”.

Because security is taken for granted, the convert has no need to continue believing and trusting Jesus. He may love Jesus because of how he feels now; but with a change of feeling, the love might vanish as well. What God wants, and who God is, is sort of removed from the convert’s experience. He might learn to appreciate God’s perspective, but ultimately his own personal interests matter most.

Now I must make myself clear: the above scenario often does not happen. Often those who hold to this idea of eternal security still go on to live holy lives with genuine love for Christ. Many of these people are not man-centered at all.

Still, this understanding is wrong. The idea that just praying a prayer makes you eternally secure if very wrong. And if you’ve ever talked to backslidden converts, you will hear that they subscribe to this view. Even preachers have said that there’s nothing you can do once saved, to lose your salvation. And this can overtly encourage a very licentious lifestyle.

So, “eternal security” is wrong???

No, I’m not saying that true believers aren’t eternally secure. Don’t get me wrong, please. I am saying that the historic belief of the orthodox Church does not jive with a “once saved, always saved” (OSAS) mentality. Historically, emphasis has been on the perseverance of the saints not on their preservation. The saints are preserved, but all true saints, will persevere–they will not finally fall away.

The problem with OSAS is that it flies in the face of such clear Biblical warnings as:

  • “He has now reconciled [you]… in order to present you holy and blameless and above reproach before him, if indeed you continue in the faith, stable and steadfast, not shifting from the hope of the gospel that you heard…” (Col. 1:22-23)
  • “…the gospel… which you received, in which you stand, and by which you are being saved, if you hold fast to the word I preached to you–unless you believed in vain.” (1 Cor. 15:1-2)
  • “…and we are his house if indeed we hold fast our confidence and our boasting in our hope.” (Heb. 3:6)
  • “Take care, brothers, lest there be in any of you an evil, unbelieving heart, leading you to fall away from the living God…For we share in Christ, if indeed we hold our original confidence firm to the end.” (Heb. 3:12, 14)
  • If you abide in my word, you are truly my disciples.” (Jn. 8:31b)
  • “But the one who endures to the end will be saved.” (Mk. 13:13b)
  • “For if you live according to the flesh you will die, but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live.” (Rom. 8:13)
  • “…in due season we will reap [eternal life (see 6:8)], if we do not give up.” (Gal. 6:9)
  • “Strive for… the holiness without which no one will see the Lord.” (Heb. 12:14)
  • “faith apart from works is dead” and “can that faith save him?” (James 2:26 with 2:14)
  • “And we desire each one of you to show the same earnestness to have the full assurance of hope until the end, so that you may not be sluggish, but imitators of those who through faith and patience inherit the promises.” (Heb. 6:11-12)
  • “…they believe for a while, and in time of testing fall away.” (Luke 8:13b)

The last verse above coupled with 1 Thess. 3:5, teach that faith might not last. 1 Cor. 15:2 teaches that belief could be in vain. Jesus warned against those who professed to know Christ but didn’t in Matt. 7:21-23, and he testified to the need for perseverance to the end in Luke 21:34-36. This is why the Scripture encourages us to “examine [ourselves], to see whether [we] are in the faith” (2 Cor. 13:5a) and to “make our calling and election sure” (2 Pet. 1:10).

I have more to say on this important point, and I’ll come back to it in the next post. I will leave you with a few earlier posts of mine which will help you understand what exactly I’m saying, and why I think it is Biblical.

Also, this external link, provides some excellent reasons why God would put such warnings in Scripture, even though all of the elect will certainly persevere (John 10:27-30, 1 Pet. 1:3-5).

More on Asking Jesus Into Your Heart

I’m not quite ready to pick up my Man-Centered Christianity series yet. But the latest post on the sinner’s prayer, has been well received.

Since posting on the problematic use of the sinner’s prayer as well as the non-Biblical phrase “Ask Jesus into your heart”, I ran across three other posts on the issue that are worth the read. I thougt I’d share them here while our thoughts are on this important issue.

  • TomintheBox reports on the frantic search for the phrase “Accepting Jesus into Your Heart”. While always hilarious, TomintheBox sometimes uses satire to deal with serious issues. This is such an issue.
  • The InternetMonk (Michael Spencer) also discusses what’s wrong with “Christ Knocking at the Door of Your Heart“. He helpfully explains how this idea came about and the negative ramifications of such an emphasis. This is really a post worth reading, even if we might disagree with the IMonk on some issues (such as Calvinism).
  • The IMonk actually links to one of my reforming fundamentalist friends, Brian McCrorie. Brian has an excellent post delving into this problem further, especially showing how it hampers child evangelism.

These are all worth reading. I hope to have the next installment of the series done tomorrow or Friday, so bear with me!AddThis Social Bookmark Button

An Honest KJV Advocate & Another Wacky KJV Only Website

On one of my posts dealing with the King James Only movement, I recently had someone leave a comment directing me to an article he had written entitled “Dangers of ‘KJV Onlyism’ or KJV Perfectionism”. Upon going to his website, I discovered that this guy preferred the KJV and even thought it is the most accurate English Bible translation available. Yet he took issue with KJV Onlyists. Why? Aside from his conclusion that the extreme KJVO views are very problematic, this man actually owned up to the fact that the KJV has a few minor errors!

An Honest KJV Advocate

Here is a man who deserves to be recognized. He upholds the KJV as the most accurate translation and at the same time feels no compulsion to explain away any and all errors in it. This man is an honest KJV advocate!

Sadly, most American advocates (this man is from England) of the KJV, even those who agree that the Greek and Hebrew texts underlying the KJV are more important for study than the English translation, cannot admit to any error in the KJV at all. Many of these same advocates identify with the Dean Burgon Society. They claim to hold the same views as the Anglican John Burgon, yet he admitted to hundreds of errors in the TR, and they admit none. Some KJV Onlyies go so far as to allow for discussion of the Greek, and even to claim that a better or more accurate translation could be given. Yet they refuse to go beyond a certain point. They cannot admit one error in the KJV.

Perhaps they feel such an admission destroys their whole doctrine of Scripture. It is emphatically important to them that they unquestioningly hold every inspired word of God in their hands, when they lift up a KJV. Anything less than this opens the door, they claim, to questioning whether John 3:16 or any other verse is really God’s word or not. Many of these people also claim that God promised to preserve all of the words of Scripture perfectly and inerrantly, and that these words can be found in the texts that underly the KJV.

Regardless of their reason, such advocates unreasonably hold to their wishful thinking. No matter your theological position, I wish you were honest with the facts. The King James Version has some indisputable errors. More on that later.

Another Wacky KJV Only Website

In reading the article mentioned above (it is written by Pavlos Karageorgi and you can read it by scrolling down about 1/3 of the way down this page), I came across some of the most shocking and alarming quotes I have yet seen in all of my research into KJV Onlyism. These statements can be read here, and describe the position of Touchet Baptist Church (Touchet, WA).

I would say that you may be amused by the craziness you’ll find at this church’s website. But it should be more than amusing, it should be grossly disturbing. Let me provide a few of the statements you’ll find on that page under a section entitled “We are King James 1611 Bible Only!”:

  • We are KJB more than most folks can even imagine!
  • We will not willingly listen, seek out or encourage any greek in our studies or sermons – or in or from the pulpit – NONE!
  • No Hebrew is necessary, either!
  • English Language of the King James Bible is the language God put His words into for the 7th and last writing.
  • This KJ1611 Bible is alive with the Spirit of God and ALL the modern versions/perversions are alive with the spirit of the devil!
  • The King James 1611 Bible is essential for one’s salvation.
  • The King James 1611 Bible is truly the sword of the Spirit and is essential for spiritual circumcision, without which Christ can not enter nor can we be made holy!
  • The King James 1611 Bible is the word of truth, the gospel of our salvation!
  • The King James 1611 Bible is the only inspired, inerrant, preserved word of God and IS the very words of God.
  • The King James 1611 Bible is higher than any physical or mental experience that one sees or feels.
  • John 1:1 is referring to the King James 1611 Bible today as well as Jesus Christ.
  • If you could take the King James 1611 Bible and turn it into a flesh and blood person, you would have Jesus Christ.
  • Blood was shed for this book to be in our hands today – as was the blood of Christ so we could be in His hands today! (emphasis added)

One of the subtitles the church claims for itself is “Magnifying His Word Above All His Name”, and sadly, I fear this becomes blasphemy and idolatry in the case of this church. I hope I’m wrong, but such a position manifests an extremely skewed focus for this church.

Some of the KJV’s Errors

Going back to the article written by an honest KJV advocate, I thought it would be good to list all the errors that Brother Karageorgi mentioned in his article against “KJV Perfectionism”.

  • In Hebrews 10:23, the KJV translates the Greek word meaning hope as “faith”, but the Tyndale Version originally had “hope” as the translation (as do most of the modern Bible versions).
  • Luke 14:10 has the KJV translating the Greek word doxa (glory) as “worship”, resulting in a verse which claims men receive worship, rather than as Tyndale had it, receiving “glory”.
  • Rev. 18:13 has the KJV translating the Greek word soma (body) as slaves. This could be attributed to dynamic equivalence, or loose translation, however.
  • Mr. Karageorgi thinks the phrase “drink ye all of it” in Matt. 26:27 is unnecessarily unclear, in comparison to Tyndale’s “Drink of it every one”. I agree.
  • In Matt. 14:9, he points out that modern KJV’s have “for the oath’s sake” but originally in the Tyndale (and even in the 1611 KJV, as I found) it was for the othes sake” (no apostrophe was used back then). The Greek word is plural, so it refers to more than one oath, which you would not know if you depended on your modern KJV (either the Cambridge or Oxford edition).
  • In John 10:16, the KJV translates two different Greek words both as “fold”. The Tyndale version more accurately reflects the Greek reading “Other sheep I have which are not of this fold. Them also must I bring that they may hear my voice and that they may be one flock and one shepherd.” This is a translational error which affects the sense of the text.
  • Brother Karageorgi also sees problems with the use of “charity” in 1 Cor. 13 for the Greek word agape, because even in 1611 there were various connotations of almsgiving associated with the word “charity”.
  • Lastly, he points out the use of “Easter” in Acts 12:4 as wrong. Since Tyndale used easter lamb and paschal lamb interchangeably (see Mark 14:12), it is clear that to him and others of his time Easter had the meaning Passover. What this means is that the KJV translators missed one of the “Easters” of Tyndale, when they removed all the other instances of this not quite correct word (it is not an actual translation of the Greek word).
  • Brother Karageorgi also mentioned a few instances of the differences between the Cambridge and Oxford editions of the modern KJV. Jer. 34:16 has “whom ye” in the Cambridge and “whom he” in the Oxford. At Nahum 3:16, Cambridge has “flieth” and Oxford has “fleeth”. And at 2 Chron. 33:19 the Cambridge has “sin” but the Oxford has “sins”.

Keep in mind these are just errors of the translation, places where it does not reflect its own Greek text well. The Greek text itself is in error, I would claim. Even as it has many readings not supported by the majority of Greek texts or other textual witnesses. E.F. Hills (another honest KJV advocate) admits that in Rom. 7:6 (“that being dead wherein” instead of “being dead to that wherein”) and Rev. 16:5 (“shalt be” instead of “the holy one”) the KJV followed conjectural emendations Beza introduced to his text. Hills also says that in Rev. 17:8 a typo from Erasmus’ first edition was perpetuated through all editions of the TR and into the KJV (TR has “and yet is” but it should be with the majority of Greek texts “and shall come”).

A few other errors in the KJV English would be Lk. 18:12 where it says “possess” instead of following the Greek TR which has “get or acquire”. And in Mt. 23:24 there is an English typo reading “strain at” instead of “strain out”.

Brother Karageorgi, thank you for being honest. I only wish a few other KJV advocates would be honest as well. I join with you in standing against the wacky KJV Perfectionists, and the not-so-wacky ones as well.
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Almost Back

I’m back, but not quite back to blogging full steam. I hope to catch up on comments and etc. later today.

For now, the Calvinist debate continues at Contend Earnestly. I’m sure that they’re going to forever solve the age old dilemma 😛 . Seriously, though, it is a charitable debate with lots of Scripture. So any of you who are still figuring out where you stand on this subject, or for those trying to understand those on either position, check it out! Oh, and check out a great post over there on why Calvinists evangelize.

And if you really like debates, you could find the the discussion on music over at Jackhammer interesting. I don’t like to jump into the fray over there all that much, the hammers can be deadly. But they like to counter my points on music over here. For now, the comments here are full enough on this topic. If others want to interact with me on the subject feel free to add comments on one of these recent posts: “Music, Morality & The Bible” and “10 Points on the Music Issue“.
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Responding to Error: A Comparison Study between Fundamentalism and Hyperfundamentalism

Recently, I was startled by a sharp contrast over how 2 different men responded to error. These two responses provide a comparison study which illustrates just why fundamentalism (IFB) and hyperfundamentalism (IFBx) should be distinguished.

Definitions

Before we move to the study, we should pause and provide some definitions for those who may be unfamiliar with the independent Baptist fundamentalist movement. Fundamentalism describes the position of adhering to the fundamentals of the faith and also being willing to separate over these fundamentals. For independent Baptists, such separation usually extends to believers who cooperate with those who deny one or more of the fundamentals. And the movement dictates how such separation looks and around which personalities it centers.

Hyperfundamentalists, also known as IFBx, elevate cultural standards to the level of doctrine, and separate accordingly. Many leaders in this group exert an inordinate control over the lives of their followers, and demand an almost cultish loyalty. This group also maintains extreme positions, often holding to an almost-heretical KJV-only position.

Admittedly, the division between these two groups can be somewhat arbitrary. And we are obviously speaking in generalities. There are similarities between both groups, and that is part of the reason why I have left independent Baptist fundamentalism altogether. But the differences remain. And these differences can be very large and defining, as this comparison study will demonstrate.

The Comparison: Case #1

I have not followed the Joe Zichterman case fully, but his departure from fundamentalism provides the background for our first example. He had been a professor at Northland Baptist Bible College, a solidly IFB institution. Now he has left the movement altogether and has joined Willow Creek Community Church (pastored by Bill Hybels). Evidently, he has great respect for Bill Hybels and Rick Warren, and recommends Joel Osteen. I don’t know all the details, but apparently he is encouraging others to leave fundamentalism, and has emailed hundreds of people on fundamentalist email lists in defense of his departure. I may disagree with some of Joe’s theological leanings, but I do empathize with how big a deal it was for him to leave the fundamentalist movement. I also read his fictional work “A Tale of Two Amishmen: Inside the mind of a Spiritual Defector”, and I agree with many (not all) of the concerns with fundamentalism in general as highlighted there.

Now in response to Joe’s defection, I’m sure there has been much said in the fundamentalist blogosphere. To be honest, I haven’t read all that much of it. I did, however, read Brian McCrorie’s recent post “Is Joe Zichterman a False Teacher?” That post applied the results of his recent study on false teachers to Joe’s specific case. He concluded overwhelmingly that Joe Zichterman does not fit the bill of a false teacher, according to the following Biblically-derived definition.

False teachers are unregenerate people who have rejected the Gospel and are now intent on corrupting it for the sake of monetary gain. They use deception and lust to entice spiritually immature believers to their heresy. These teachers have no spiritual discernment, are addicted to sin, and are arrogant, especially toward authority. They deny Christ and the words of Christ.

While some in fundamentalism might be prone to apply that particular label to Joe, most of them do not doubt his salvation, nor his sincerity. They would agree he is in error, and many bloggers have taken the time to show why. Some fundamentalist leaders, however, even call for his message to be appropriately considered and pondered. So this is a fundamentalist response to theological error: a reasoned rejection coupled with warnings, and a sincere prayer that God would bless and help Joe Zichterman see the error of his ways.

Case #2

I was recently made aware of a new controversy within hyperfundamentalism. It surrounds Jack Schaap, the son-in-law of Jack Hyles, and current pastor of First Baptist of Hammond, IN. I knew that mainstream fundamentalists had been pointing out the wild and unbelievable stories, and strange doctrine of Schaap, but I was not aware that other hyperfundamentalists and Hyles devotees were also pointing out Schaap’s errors. For all I know, this controversy could have been brewing for some time, but many of the official letters that I found were written in the past month or so.

The ringleader (from what I can tell) of the opposition to Schaap from the conservative fundamentalist ranks is Tom Neal of The Baptist Contender. His website highlights a sermon preached by his son, Greg Neal entitled “Schaap’s Fables”. The website also boasts a collection of audio clips of Schaap espousing various heresies.

Now I am glad that Tom Neal and the other men behind that paper are holding Schaap accountable for his wacky and errant theology (more on that later). I find it odd, though, that this same paper endorses Jack Hyles 100%. David Cloud’s article “I Am of Jack” singles out The Baptist Contender and Tom Neal for an almost cultish devotion to all things Hyles. And if you want to speak of wacky theology, Jack Hyles was king in that category. This site lists just some of the many crazy and absurd things Hyles taught. (And this is beyond the questions about Hyles’ personal integrity.)

As for Schaap, the charges against him center primarily on his overemphasis (possibly a mis-emphasis) on a comparison between marital relations and the intimacy which should characterize a believer’s relationship to Christ. Christ is the husband and the church is the bride, remember. Schaap gets very pointed in his application of this “principle” and goes so far as to claim that the Lord’s Supper (in which we partake of or receive Christ’s body) is all about this “spiritual intimacy”. Details of this shocking teaching can be seen here.

That was the primary charge brought forth in that sermon, I mentioned above. The second primary point had to do with Scaap’s humanizing of God. Various quotes were given which did seem to bring God down somewhat to our level. Schaap’s motivation seemed to be to help us understand God more and get us to see things differently.

Now that is pretty much the sum total of the accusations Neal and company throw at Schaap. Other things are mentioned, but it seems to me that they are mostly stretches. For instance the list of sermon excerpts which supposedly confirm that Schaap teaches heresy fails miserably. I honestly don’t have a clue on some of the excerpts as to why they were included; perhaps the page is still being created and they are “on the hunt” for evidence, I’m not sure. Most of the clips have Schaap decrying racism. Is that heretical? On this page, they provide a 14 minute clip which shows Schaap belittling pedophiles and making a mockery of sin. If you listen to it, Schaap is not doing any such thing. He is calling for people to have an understanding of others and to try to reach them rather than just condemn certain people and write them off. Another point of evidence the site appeals to is Schaap’s calling a non-fundamentalist black megachurch pastor James Meeks his friend.

I emphasize the scant evidence of other charges to make this point. These men take what is certainly questionable and errant doctrine, and conclude that Schaap is denying the deity of Christ and preaching another gospel. Greg Neal said he did not believe Schaap was saved. The site links to some very mean-spirited letters written to Schaap and Ray Young by Tom Neal that were copied to a veritable “Who’s Who” list in hyperfundamentalism. There is also a letter to a pastor John Shook, where Tom Neal doubts his salvation and refuses to call him “brother” because he defends Jack Schaap.

Is such a fierce response warranted? Certainly Jack Schaap has some doctrinal problems, and he could benefit from more Bible study time, it seems. He should be more careful with his teaching, and ensure that his teachings on marital intimacy don’t become license for sin or occasion for a blasphemous view of the believer’s relationship to God. But is he consciously denying the deity of Christ? Is he really preaching another gospel? Is he a “false prophet” to use Greg Neal’s words?

Conclusion

I can’t believe I just defended Jack Schaap! But the sad truth is hyperfundamentalists are so extreme, that they often think the worst they can of everybody who doesn’t agree with them completely. To them, there is only so much error one can have before we start doubting their salvation.

It should be painfully obvious by now just how wide the gap is between hyperfundamentalists and their fundamentalist cousins. That is what struck me so much in thinking through both of these cases. Now I know that Tom Neal and company may perhaps represent the radical right extreme of hyperfundamentalism, and Brian McCrorie could be close to the left extreme of fundamentalism, but I think this comparison does illustrate an important point. Fundamentalists are prone to think through things more slowly and carefully and Biblically, whereas hyperfundamentalists quickly default to an extreme separation from anyone they deem to be in error.

One more thing, this again highlights the important question I raised a long time ago “Is It a Sin to Be Wrong?” And again I point you to Tim Challies’ answer (which was recently highlighted in the comments of one of my recent posts).AddThis Social Bookmark Button